obama is up, right? >>guest: our polling has him up almost 4 1/2 points which you have seen in the polls that have come out. a news poll had him up five points. on the ground, though, i think there is a closer race and observers and analysts are saying that we will see a race more like 2004 between bush and john kerry which was a two-point race and not the four-point race we saw four years ago. >>shepard: the locals are telling us, our reporters who work there, too, are having a hard time figuring out what is driving the undecided. what are the issues? how do you get them? >>guest: when the candidates visit they present two different versions of ohio. obama's is more optimistic saying his auto bailout is helping people and jobs are coming back. unemployment is a point lower in ohio than it is nationally. romney's argument is that median incomes are falling and obama's trade policies are causing manufacturing jobs to go overseas. we then have the republican governor in the middle saying his policies have